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		<title>By: Rise v4 &#187; The Doom &#38; Gloom Triumvirate</title>
		<link>http://www.uborka.nu/rise/2006/07/moo-or-a-week-in-the-life/comment-page-1/#comment-774</link>
		<dc:creator>Rise v4 &#187; The Doom &#38; Gloom Triumvirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 18:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Formula Breastfeeding has been hard, no doubt about it. It all seems so simple: stick nipple in baby&#039;s mouth, baby feeds. But no. Not all babies are good at getting the right amount of breast into their mouth; this is called a Bad Latch, and is quite common. With a little assistance, the mum and baby can usually learn what to do quite quickly, and then, apparently, breastfeeding becomes enjoyable. Alternatively, you can get all kinds of nonsense advice, and end up with hundreds of alternative suggestions, and no attention being paid to the problematic latch. If there&#039;s one thing I have learned from this, it&#039;s to pay no attention to the experts, and trust what I know. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Formula Breastfeeding has been hard, no doubt about it. It all seems so simple: stick nipple in baby&#8217;s mouth, baby feeds. But no. Not all babies are good at getting the right amount of breast into their mouth; this is called a Bad Latch, and is quite common. With a little assistance, the mum and baby can usually learn what to do quite quickly, and then, apparently, breastfeeding becomes enjoyable. Alternatively, you can get all kinds of nonsense advice, and end up with hundreds of alternative suggestions, and no attention being paid to the problematic latch. If there&#8217;s one thing I have learned from this, it&#8217;s to pay no attention to the experts, and trust what I know. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;my favorite part was the wine.  and also &quot;hungrier for the breast.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i just spent the weekend with my mother, whom i hadn&#039;t seen for about a year, and we spent a long time flipping through photo albums of my very early childhood.  i was happy to see that there were so many pictures of my first year, not because i liked the photos of myself so very much, but because of the images of my parents with me -- holding, feeding, playing --  they were really heartwarming.  i thought of you and pete, and i hope that you&#039;re taking lots of photos and maybe thinking about printing them (when you have the time) for rewarding viewing later in life. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my favorite part was the wine.  and also &#8220;hungrier for the breast.&#8221;</p>

<p>i just spent the weekend with my mother, whom i hadn&#8217;t seen for about a year, and we spent a long time flipping through photo albums of my very early childhood.  i was happy to see that there were so many pictures of my first year, not because i liked the photos of myself so very much, but because of the images of my parents with me &#8212; holding, feeding, playing &#8212;  they were really heartwarming.  i thought of you and pete, and i hope that you&#8217;re taking lots of photos and maybe thinking about printing them (when you have the time) for rewarding viewing later in life. <img src='http://www.uborka.nu/rise/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Relly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Relly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 08:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We have had &lt;em&gt;exactly&lt;/em&gt; the same issues - but thankfully my midwives were abit more supportive and gave us a lot of help, including pumping in hospital, syringe feeding, nipple shields, rebirth etc. they were also very sympathetic because i was trying to breast feed, despite having been awake for nearly 80 hours and having a c-section &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can i really STRONGLY recommend the book &#039;what to expect when you&#039;re breastfeeding and what if you can&#039;t by Clare Byam-Cook&#039;. Really helped me sort out myth from muddle and getting him latched on.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We are now combining EBM bottle and breast with nipple shield (when bub is so inclined) and he&#039;s doing well, no confusion to be found. we didnt even do the cup because part of our issue was bubs being &lt;em&gt;too&lt;/em&gt; excited for food - he&#039;s knock the precious item to the floor given half a chance.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Gotta ask though WHY did you express colostrum for hours and hours - you either have lots (like i did, holy cow i could have fed every kid in the ward bar mine who couldnt be bothered) or you dont, before your milk comes in - you must be sore, girl!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have had <em>exactly</em> the same issues &#8211; but thankfully my midwives were abit more supportive and gave us a lot of help, including pumping in hospital, syringe feeding, nipple shields, rebirth etc. they were also very sympathetic because i was trying to breast feed, despite having been awake for nearly 80 hours and having a c-section </p>

<p>Can i really STRONGLY recommend the book &#8216;what to expect when you&#8217;re breastfeeding and what if you can&#8217;t by Clare Byam-Cook&#8217;. Really helped me sort out myth from muddle and getting him latched on.</p>

<p>We are now combining EBM bottle and breast with nipple shield (when bub is so inclined) and he&#8217;s doing well, no confusion to be found. we didnt even do the cup because part of our issue was bubs being <em>too</em> excited for food &#8211; he&#8217;s knock the precious item to the floor given half a chance.</p>

<p>Gotta ask though WHY did you express colostrum for hours and hours &#8211; you either have lots (like i did, holy cow i could have fed every kid in the ward bar mine who couldnt be bothered) or you dont, before your milk comes in &#8211; you must be sore, girl!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 13:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One week already! Sounds like things are going very well (now), so let&#039;s raise a boob and toast the happy family!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(what?!)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One week already! Sounds like things are going very well (now), so let&#8217;s raise a boob and toast the happy family!</p>

<p>(what?!)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: graybo</title>
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		<dc:creator>graybo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This all seems so familiar and yet, even at only just a bit more than five months, so very long ago. We had a few &quot;dark days&quot; but we (i.e. mostly Hels and Tom) stuck at it and gave His Lordship sixteen weeks of breast milk. We&#039;re very proud of that.
We (i.e. Hels - but I was there!) found hand pumping worked quite well, once we got the knack for it (I kinda helped with that at first). And, as you seem to have found, once you get past the initial bit, then it seems that baby goes for boob all by himself. Pumping is still useful even when baby has got the latch going well, particularly if you are going out to an environment where breastfeeding is either not de rigeur or not well catered for (i.e. most places, sadly).
And, even though we did use a bottle, then was no shortage of bonding between father and son. I&#039;m not sure that a cup would have increased the bonding, but it might have increased the frustration for all concerned - it was frustrating enough trying to keep Tom awake long enough to drink! As I&#039;ve said over at Dad&#039;s place, we found no problem switching back and forth between breast and bottle/teat, but I guess each parent/child will have a different experience.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On a slightly different topic, we are getting increasingly annoyed at the mother-centric provision of changing facilities in public places. Changing units seem to be always in the ladies&#039; loo, rarely in the gents or in a dedicated room. It seems to be worse for older children - my brother-in-law and his wife have recently separated and B-i-L took his daughter out this weekend (she&#039;s six years old) and she was very sick in the car - but was there anywhere where he and she could go together in order to clean her up? Nothing in service stations, pubs, cafes or public toilets, so they had to abort their trip and drive home with very unpleasant smells in the car. You&#039;d think that, given divorce rates in the UK, there would be more provision for dads alone with their children, but there isn&#039;t. Maybe the government could spend money on this instead of wasting it on some of their other daft projects.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyhow, rant over, and congratulations for all you&#039;ve achieved so far. There is no better feeling for parents (especially mum) when the baby starts gaining weight and the only source of that gain is from breast milk.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all seems so familiar and yet, even at only just a bit more than five months, so very long ago. We had a few &quot;dark days&quot; but we (i.e. mostly Hels and Tom) stuck at it and gave His Lordship sixteen weeks of breast milk. We&#8217;re very proud of that.
We (i.e. Hels &#8211; but I was there!) found hand pumping worked quite well, once we got the knack for it (I kinda helped with that at first). And, as you seem to have found, once you get past the initial bit, then it seems that baby goes for boob all by himself. Pumping is still useful even when baby has got the latch going well, particularly if you are going out to an environment where breastfeeding is either not de rigeur or not well catered for (i.e. most places, sadly).
And, even though we did use a bottle, then was no shortage of bonding between father and son. I&#8217;m not sure that a cup would have increased the bonding, but it might have increased the frustration for all concerned &#8211; it was frustrating enough trying to keep Tom awake long enough to drink! As I&#8217;ve said over at Dad&#8217;s place, we found no problem switching back and forth between breast and bottle/teat, but I guess each parent/child will have a different experience.</p>

<p>On a slightly different topic, we are getting increasingly annoyed at the mother-centric provision of changing facilities in public places. Changing units seem to be always in the ladies&#8217; loo, rarely in the gents or in a dedicated room. It seems to be worse for older children &#8211; my brother-in-law and his wife have recently separated and B-i-L took his daughter out this weekend (she&#8217;s six years old) and she was very sick in the car &#8211; but was there anywhere where he and she could go together in order to clean her up? Nothing in service stations, pubs, cafes or public toilets, so they had to abort their trip and drive home with very unpleasant smells in the car. You&#8217;d think that, given divorce rates in the UK, there would be more provision for dads alone with their children, but there isn&#8217;t. Maybe the government could spend money on this instead of wasting it on some of their other daft projects.</p>

<p>Anyhow, rant over, and congratulations for all you&#8217;ve achieved so far. There is no better feeling for parents (especially mum) when the baby starts gaining weight and the only source of that gain is from breast milk.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Karan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 04:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I didn&#039;t know how else to let you know what I noticed but I&#039;m glad it was repaired.  I like it very much...one we seriously considered here 20 years ago.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know how else to let you know what I noticed but I&#8217;m glad it was repaired.  I like it very much&#8230;one we seriously considered here 20 years ago.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 23:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You&#039;ll be happy to know I got through that whole post without once thinking of sex.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I did want to get the pom poms out and give the three of you a cheer though. Glad end of week one is going well even if it took some time to kick off. You&#039;re fantastic. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also I know now a lot more about breast feeding which bring up my knowledge from &quot;nothing&quot; to &quot;slightly more than nothing&quot;. I one day might be able to have a non sexual discussion about breasts myself. Just possibly not in the summer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll be happy to know I got through that whole post without once thinking of sex.</p>

<p>I did want to get the pom poms out and give the three of you a cheer though. Glad end of week one is going well even if it took some time to kick off. You&#8217;re fantastic. </p>

<p>Also I know now a lot more about breast feeding which bring up my knowledge from &#8220;nothing&#8221; to &#8220;slightly more than nothing&#8221;. I one day might be able to have a non sexual discussion about breasts myself. Just possibly not in the summer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: qB</title>
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		<dc:creator>qB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You stars. I&#039;m so glad. Being a graduate of the nipple-shield school myself I can begin (but only begin) to imagine what this must have been like. Hugs to you all.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You stars. I&#8217;m so glad. Being a graduate of the nipple-shield school myself I can begin (but only begin) to imagine what this must have been like. Hugs to you all.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: His &#8216;M&#8217; Face (from This Is The Goo I&#8217;ve Got )</title>
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		<dc:creator>His &#8216;M&#8217; Face (from This Is The Goo I&#8217;ve Got )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 21:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Karen, when time permits, wishes to write a lengthy article on the problems that we have had getting him to breastfeed, so I will leave that particular topic to her. (Update: it&#8217;s here) [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Karen, when time permits, wishes to write a lengthy article on the problems that we have had getting him to breastfeed, so I will leave that particular topic to her. (Update: it&#8217;s here) [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eva-L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva-L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 20:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You are amazing! It must have been really hard work this.  And as you&#039;ve probably noticed by now the sore nipples do heal as they get used to the friction:-) In my experience the first two weeks are worst and then it just gets better. (Calendula cream is good for sore nipples.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are amazing! It must have been really hard work this.  And as you&#8217;ve probably noticed by now the sore nipples do heal as they get used to the friction:-) In my experience the first two weeks are worst and then it just gets better. (Calendula cream is good for sore nipples.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Karan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 18:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Name confusion on line one of Friday?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All of it does get better, really.  It sounds like you are all three doing very well and that this wee baby is in the hands of very capable parents.  Keep up the good work.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name confusion on line one of Friday?</p>

<p>All of it does get better, really.  It sounds like you are all three doing very well and that this wee baby is in the hands of very capable parents.  Keep up the good work.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Calista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 15:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hoooooraaaaay! My congrats to you on so many things :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I had much the same problem - flat nipples, not much to hold on to for the little one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good for you :-) Also very happy that you&#039;ve not beat yourself up about anything :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoooooraaaaay! My congrats to you on so many things <img src='http://www.uborka.nu/rise/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>I had much the same problem &#8211; flat nipples, not much to hold on to for the little one.</p>

<p>Good for you <img src='http://www.uborka.nu/rise/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Also very happy that you&#8217;ve not beat yourself up about anything <img src='http://www.uborka.nu/rise/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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